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Tuesday BONUS...Most Impactful Factor

  • 1.  Tuesday BONUS...Most Impactful Factor

    Posted 14 days ago
    For those interested...I posted a video that provides some description of C&C related to the four factors and the results of the survey.  I also invite others to share their own C&C on each of the four factors. Below is a snip of the results showing the results from the 29 responses.  Thanks to all who responded to the survey.

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  • 2.  RE: Tuesday BONUS...Most Impactful Factor

    Posted 14 days ago

    This was a very good question and a thorough analysis.

    What I think it shows is that all 4 of the factors are important and that how you answered was based on experiences and thought process.  There are positives and negatives with each factor.  I answered as factor 2, not based on the "can't determine" aspect, but the other end--if you could show it was not acquired or viewed.  We had a case where the PHI was mailed to the right recipient, but at an old address.  When the organization who was expecting it called and said they didn't have it yet, we started the breach process and determined a breach.  Two weeks later, the package was returned to us marked to the effect of 'recipient no longer at this address, no forwarding address'.  The outer envelope and the inner envelope were both intact.  This led us to look at the whole analysis and it changed the outcome.  It was not viewed or acquired, and this had an impact on the other factors.

    All of the factors are important and each one should not be looked at in total isolation from the others.  The proper answer is probably 'all of the above factors are important'. 

    Lloyd Hemmert
    Compliance & Ethics Officer
    Hill Country MHDD Centers

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  • 3.  RE: Tuesday BONUS...Most Impactful Factor

    Posted 14 days ago

    I was one of he 28% that answered Factor 3 and just as Lloyd stated, it is from experience. Impermissible disclosures or other types of impermissibles revealed to an entity that is obligated to protect the data can have a large impact on the determination of a breach.

    I agree that all four factors are important and impactful. Hence, the reason we have all four to consider. Certainly it can be argued that if the data was secured or otherwise meets the exceptions in place in the regulations, then Factor #1 could be rated as the most impactful. There are certainly scenarios that would make each Factor the most impactful in that particular situation.


    Great question and analysis. Thanks Frank!


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    Scot Lovejoy   

    Scot Lovejoy RPh. CHC CHPC

    Chief Pharmacy Officer

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  • 4.  RE: Tuesday BONUS...Most Impactful Factor

    Posted 14 days ago
    I cannot seem to get the video to play.  Not sure if I missed the cut off or not.  I appreciate Scot and Lloyd's analysis of the video and why you chose what you chose.  I was in the same boat with Scot, Factor 3 based on the same reasons.  I didn't think this was a cut and dry question.  Good to see the results of folks and I will continue to work on trying to see if I can get the video to play.  Thank you!

    Melanie Schoonover, MS, CRC, CHC, CHPC
    Quality Assurance Supervisor | HIPAA Privacy Manager

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